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    Money Talk With Tiff
    Episode•October 11, 2022•23 min

    Tiffany's Take: Opportunity Knocks with Rahkim Sabree & Patrice Washington | Ep. 146

    Coming to you live from FinCon 2022, Tiffany joins Rahkim Sabree and Patrice Washington to talk all things FinCon, their unique backgrounds, and being a Black creator in this space. Connect with Patrice Washington Instagram:@seekwisdompcw Website: Opportunity Knocks Connect with Rahkim Sabree Instagram:@rahkimsabree/ Facebook: RahkimSabree Connect with Tiffany on Social Media Facebook: Money Talk With Tiff Twitter: @moneytalkwitht Instagram: @moneytalkwitht LinkedIn: Tiffany Grant  This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy OP3 - https://op3.dev/privacy

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    Key Takeaways

    • 1

      Behavioral finance and addressing financial trauma are critical for lasting change, especially in communities of color

      Many financial struggles stem from unprocessed childhood trauma rather than lack of budgeting knowledge

      People often operate from decisions made at age 8 when they're 40 years old if trauma isn't addressed

      Removing shame creates an atmosphere where people can actually learn and apply financial knowledge

    • 2

      Dreaming in full color and setting an authentic vision is essential before setting financial goals

      Asking 'what are your goals?' leads to default answers; asking about ideal life reveals authentic desires

      Dreaming is free and should not be policed or limited by perceived constraints

      Starting with vision allows people to shift from fight-or-flight mode into possibility thinking

    • 3

      Success leaves clues and representation matters in financial education spaces

      FinCon grew from ~100 attendees with few people of color in 2012 to 1,600-1,700 with hundreds of brown faces in 2022

      Seeing creators who look like you and share similar experiences makes advice feel accessible and relatable

      The 'rise and lift' approach creates a multiplier effect where successful creators bring others along

    • 4

      Community resources exist to help during financial hardship and there's no shame in using them

      Patrice used food stamps for 18 months during her lowest point and returned the card when no longer needed

      Many people suffer in silence due to stigma around seeking government or nonprofit assistance

      Opportunity Knocks helps connect people to local resources through an Opportunity Finder tool by zip code

    Intro

    • Recorded live at FinCon 2022, Tiffany Grant hosts Rahkim Sabree and Patrice Washington for a conversation about the evolution of the personal finance space, behavioral finance, and being Black creators in this industry.
    • Patrice Washington is a financial educator, author, and host of Redefining Wealth podcast. After losing everything in the 2008 recession—including her seven-figure real estate business—she rebuilt her life and now hosts Opportunity Knocks on PBS. Rahkim Sabree is a personal finance creator and collaborator on this episode.
    Patrice Washington InstagramOpportunity KnocksRahkim Sabree InstagramTiffany Grant FacebookTiffany Grant TwitterTiffany Grant InstagramTiffany Grant LinkedIn

    – Welcome and Introductions

    • Tiffany Grant and Rahkim Sabree open the live FinCon 2022 episode. Tiffany shares that this is her first in-person FinCon and that she and Rahkim have been 'besties since 2019.' Patrice Washington is introduced as a veteran attendee on her sixth FinCon in ten years.

    This is like a homecoming... It's like we get it. We're all here to help people be better and do better with money.

    – Patrice Washington

    – The Evolution of FinCon and Representation

    • Patrice reflects on attending her first FinCon in 2012 when there were only about 100 attendees and very few people of color. She notes the growth to 1,600-1,700 attendees with hundreds of brown faces, calling it encouraging for community change.

    I didn't really see anyone that looked like me... And I also didn't see the people that did look like me didn't seem approachable.

    – Patrice Washington
    • Tiffany introduces her platform's hashtag #riseandlift, emphasizing the multiplier effect happening in the FinCon community where successful creators bring others along.

    – Behavioral Finance and Financial Trauma

    • Tiffany asks Patrice about barriers between financial literacy and behavior change, specifically for brown communities. Patrice shares how her work shifted from budgets to behavioral interventions after realizing financial struggles often stem from unprocessed trauma.

    You don't have a budgeting problem. You have a boundary problem... This is not about budgets. This is not about credit reports.

    – Patrice Washington
    • Patrice explains that people hold onto clutter and make poor financial decisions because of childhood trauma where things were taken from them. She emphasizes that behavioral finance is a game changer for people of color who have been shamed and need to know they're not crazy—they've been through trauma.

    – The Power of Dreaming and Removing Shame

    • Tiffany shares her counseling approach: when clients are in tears and can't think straight, she resets by asking them to describe their ideal life. This shifts them from fight-or-flight into possibility thinking.

    Dreaming is free. I always tell my clients, dream in full color. Don't police yourself when it comes to dreaming.

    – Patrice Washington
    • Patrice emphasizes that removing shame is her specialty. She shares her story openly to lower people's resistance so they can actually learn. Tiffany notes that in communities of color, people are always in fight-or-flight mode due to media and systemic factors.

    – Patrice's Story: From Seven Figures to Food Stamps

    • Patrice recounts her journey: becoming a real estate and mortgage broker at 19, building a seven-figure business by 25, then losing everything in the recession while on hospital bed rest at 20 weeks pregnant. She shares the devastating details of medical debt, foreclosure, repossessions, and moving to Louisiana with no support network.

    I went from a seven-figure business to literally scraping up change... I was suffering in silence because I didn't know how to tell people. There was so much shame and guilt and embarrassment.

    – Patrice Washington
    • Patrice describes her 'come to Jesus moment' on the bathroom floor and discovering Proverbs 17:16, which became the foundation for her business: 'What good is money in the hands of a fool if they have no desire to seek wisdom.'

    – Using Community Resources Without Shame

    • Tiffany addresses the stigma around seeking help from government and nonprofits. Patrice shares that she used food stamps for 18 months and voluntarily returned her EBT card when she no longer needed it. She recounts a powerful interaction with a Black woman at the benefits office who told her: 'You paid into this. You need this right now. There's nothing wrong with you.'

    In communities of color, what are we taught? You better not tell people your business.

    – Patrice Washington
    • Patrice explains the premise of her PBS show Opportunity Knocks: helping people know it's okay to get help and connecting them to local resources like CDFIs, nonprofits, and assistance programs they don't know exist.

    – Where to Find Opportunity Knocks

    • Patrice shares that Opportunity Knocks premieres on PBS in October 2022. Viewers can find local air times or use the Opportunity Finder tool at OpportunityKnocks.net by entering their zip code to discover resources in their community.
    • Tiffany expresses excitement about using the tool for free financial literacy classes in her local community. The episode wraps with social media handles and calls to action.

    Resources

    • Opportunity Knockstool
    • Opportunity Findertool
    • Redefining Wealth Podcast

    Topics

    Behavioral FinanceFinancial TraumaRepresentation in FinanceBlack CreatorsCommunity ResourcesFinancial ShameDreaming and VisioningFinConPersonal Finance EducationSystemic Barriers

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