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    Money Talk With Tiff
    Episode•September 16, 2022•15 min

    The Divorce Money Guide with Tracy Coenen | Ep. 138

    Tracy Coenen joins Tiffany this week to drop gems on everything you need to know to feel empowered, and take control of your finances during divorce. About Our Guest Tracy Coenen has been investigating fraud for more than 25 years, but she didn’t always want to be a forensic accountant. With a dream of one day being a prison warden, Tracy went to Marquette University in Milwaukee, WI to get a criminology degree. A class on financial crime investigations reminded her how much she loved Encyclopedia Brown books as a kid. She continued her criminology degree but added accounting and economics courses so she could sit for the CPA exam… and here Tracy is, finding money in cases of corporate fraud, high net worth divorce, and other financial shenanigans. Connect with Tracy Instagram: @divorcemoneyguide Divorce Money Guide Website Use code MONEYTALKS for $100 off any package! Connect with Tiffany on Social Media Facebook: Money Talk With Tiff Twitter: @moneytalkwitht Instagram: @moneytalkwitht LinkedIn: Tiffany Grant This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy OP3 - https://op3.dev/privacy

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    Key Takeaways

    • 1

      Look for changes in behavior as red flags for financial infidelity or hidden issues

      Sudden secrecy with phones, whereabouts, or financial accounts

      New patterns like frequent large cash withdrawals without explanation

      Controlling behavior around money or refusal to share statements

    • 2

      Gather and protect financial documents early—even before separation

      Download bank statements, credit card statements, and tax returns

      Save copies in a secure location your partner cannot access

      Information becomes your best friend in divorce proceedings

    • 3

      Forensic accountants find hidden money by analyzing spending patterns and unexplained cash flows

      Cash withdrawals that don't match reported expenses indicate potential secret accounts or problematic spending

      Cross-referencing ATM withdrawals with credit/debit card purchases reveals inconsistencies

      Tracy has uncovered millions in corporate fraud over 25 years

    • 4

      The Divorce Money Guide provides affordable forensic accounting guidance for everyday people

      Helps users identify missing money and inappropriate spending without hiring a $10k-$15k forensic accountant

      Walks through document collection, organization, and analysis steps

      Use code MONEYTALK for $100 off at divorcemoneyguide.com

    Intro

    • Tracy Coenen, a forensic accountant with 25+ years investigating fraud, joins Tiffany to discuss how to protect yourself financially during divorce and separation.
    • Tracy Coenen is a forensic accountant who finds hidden money in corporate fraud and high-net-worth divorce cases. She holds a criminology degree from Marquette University with additional accounting and economics coursework to become a CPA.
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    – What is Forensic Accounting?

    • Tracy describes forensic accounting as financial investigations and fraud detection—essentially finding where money went, how it was spent, and what's unaccounted for.

    I just say I find money. I spend a lot of time looking at bank statements and credit card statements and trying to figure out where money was spent, how it was spent, where it ended up, what's not accounted for.

    – Tracy Coenen

    – Corporate Fraud Cases

    • Tracy investigates executive-level theft including customer payment skimming, inventory theft, and supplier kickback schemes. She works both for victim companies and for those accused of embezzlement to ensure accurate figures in legal proceedings.

    If you stole a million dollars, but you were being accused of stealing $3 million. I think you should get punished for the million, not the three.

    – Tracy Coenen

    – Recognizing Financial Red Flags in Relationships

    • Changes in behavior around money—such as becoming controlling, secretive with accounts, or refusing access to statements—are major warning signs. Other red flags include secrecy with phones or whereabouts, which may indicate affairs, gambling, or substance issues.

    When you have a spouse or a partner who did not go to the ATM, did not withdraw cash... but all of a sudden they are. And you're seeing, okay, a $500 withdrawal two or three times a week when previously they never went to the ATM before. Huge problem.

    – Tracy Coenen

    – What to Do If You Suspect Financial Dishonesty

    • Start gathering information immediately. Download and securely store bank statements, credit card statements, and tax returns. Having legal access now means you should preserve these records for potential divorce proceedings.

    Your best friend, if you end up separating or getting divorced, your best friend is going to be information.

    – Tracy Coenen

    – Introducing the Divorce Money Guide

    • Tracy created the Divorce Money Guide to democratize forensic accounting knowledge. Most people can't afford $10k-$15k for a forensic accountant during divorce, so this resource teaches average individuals how to identify financial discrepancies themselves.

    Why can't there be a resource for people? Why can't someone make a resource for people from the point of view of forensic accounting? So I made it.

    – Tracy Coenen

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    Topics

    forensic accountingdivorce financesfinancial infidelityfraud detectionmoney managementrelationship red flagsdocument organizationhigh net worth divorcecash flow analysisfinancial empowerment

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