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    Episode•June 20, 2024•18 min

    Small and Mighty Real Estate Investing with Chad Carson | Ep. 326

    Welcome to another exciting episode of Money Talk with Tiff! Today, Tiffany Grant brings on a very special guest, Chad Carson, the acclaimed author of "The Small and Mighty Real Estate Investor." Chad and Tiffany dive deep into a fresh perspective on real estate investing, challenging the popular notion that bigger is always better. Chad shares his unique philosophy on how starting small in real estate can lead to more flexibility, freedom, and a happier, balanced life. They discuss practical strategies like house hacking, the distinctions between short-term and long-term rentals, and tips for finding good tenants. Chad also offers valuable insights on maintaining properties and dealing with common landlord challenges. Whether you're a seasoned investor or just starting, this episode is packed with actionable advice to help you succeed in the real estate market. Be sure to listen in as we explore how to build a "small and mighty" real estate empire! About Our Guest Chad Carson (aka Coach Carson) is an author, investor, podcaster, and life-long learner who used real estate investing to reach financial independence in his 30s. His current passion is teaching other investors how to build a small and mighty rental property business so they can get out of the financial grind and do more of what matters. Based in Clemson, South Carolina, Chad and his family have also lived abroad in other countries, including 17 months in Cuenca, Ecuador and 12 months in Granada, Spain. When not writing about himself in 3rd person, vying for the silliest dad award, or playing pick-up basketball, Chad enjoys volunteering with a local non-profit he co-founded to create a network of walking and bike paths in his hometown. Connect with Chad Get the book: The Small and Mighty Real Estate Investor (affiliate link) Website: Coach Carson Podcast: Real Estate Investing with Coach Carson YouTube: Coach Carson on YouTube Instagram: @coachcarson1 Facebook: Coach Carson on Facebook Connect with Tiffany Website: https://www.moneytalkwitht.com Facebook: Money Talk With Tiff Twitter: @moneytalkwitht Instagram: @moneytalkwitht LinkedIn: Tiffany Grant YouTube: Money Talk With Tiff Pinterest: @moneytalkwitht TikTok: <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@moneytalkwitht" rel="noopener noreferrer"...

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    Key Takeaways

    • 1

      Small and mighty real estate investing prioritizes flexibility, freedom, and life balance over aggressive scaling

      Success is defined by achieving personal goals rather than hitting arbitrary unit counts

      Starting with 2-3 properties can provide sufficient income and freedom for many investors

      The philosophy challenges the 'bigger is always better' narrative prevalent on social media

    • 2

      House hacking is the most accessible entry point for new real estate investors

      Live in a multi-unit property (like a fourplex) and rent out remaining units to cover living expenses

      Buy a single-family home, live in it 2-3 years, then convert it to a rental instead of selling

      Financing is easier when purchasing a primary residence first, then transitioning to investment property

    • 3

      Short-term rentals (Airbnb) generate higher revenue but require significantly more active management

      Example: $1,500-1,800/month long-term vs. potentially $3,000-4,000/month short-term in Clemson, SC

      Short-term rentals function like running a mini-hotel with turnover, utilities, and marketing responsibilities

      Long-term rentals are more passive; Carson shifted to mostly long-term after achieving financial independence

    • 4

      Finding good tenants starts with maintaining a quality property and using systematic screening

      Well-maintained properties attract considerate tenants who take pride in their home

      Use Zillow for advertising with clear requirements (credit score minimums) stated upfront

      Screen rigorously for income, credit, and rental history—separate personal feelings from payment ability

    • 5

      Landlording challenges are often overstated; most tenant relationships are positive with proper systems

      Use free online tools for rent collection, lease signing, and tenant screening

      Prepare for emergencies by providing tenants with contractor contact information

      COVID experience showed most tenants prioritize keeping their homes and pay when able

    Intro

    • Tiffany Grant welcomes Chad Carson (Coach Carson), author of 'The Small and Mighty Real Estate Investor,' to discuss an alternative philosophy to the 'go big' real estate investing narrative.
    • Chad Carson reached financial independence in his 30s through real estate investing. He now teaches others how to build small, manageable rental portfolios that provide freedom and work-life balance. Based in Clemson, South Carolina, he has lived abroad in Ecuador and Spain.
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    – Defining Small and Mighty Real Estate Investing

    • Chad explains the contrast between the dominant 'go big' narrative (scaling from house to duplex to apartments to 1,000+ units) versus his philosophy that success means achieving personal life goals. Smaller portfolios can deliver more flexibility, freedom, family time, and community involvement.

    Success means you're accomplishing whatever it is that matters to you in your life, which is money's a tool, real estate investing's a tool.

    – Chad Carson

    – Getting Started: House Hacking Strategies

    • Chad's favorite entry method is house hacking—living in a property while converting part of it into income. Examples include buying a fourplex and renting three units, or buying a single-family home with a basement/garage apartment (ADU).
    • After living in a property 2-3 years, instead of selling when moving, keep it as a rental. This creates a natural transition with financing already in place.

    – Short-Term vs. Long-Term Rentals

    • Short-term rentals like Airbnb can generate significantly more revenue but require active management similar to running a mini-hotel. Carson notes the trade-off: more cash flow but more time commitment. He shifted to mostly long-term rentals after reaching financial independence to reduce weekly work hours.

    It's more of a job when you do an Airbnb. You can think about it like running a hotel.

    – Chad Carson

    – Transitioning a Primary Residence to Rental Property

    • When moving to a larger home, instead of selling the previous property, clean it up and convert it to either short-term or long-term rental. The existing financing stays in place, and the owner has intimate knowledge of the property from living there.
    • The main challenge is saving for the down payment on the next property. Carson recommends taking a couple of years to build savings before making the next purchase.

    – Landlord-Tenant Relationships and Management

    • Chad pushes back on negative landlord stereotypes, noting most tenants are good people seeking safe, clean housing. Drama is amplified on social media. He recommends using free online tools for rent collection and screening, and preparing for emergencies by giving tenants contractor phone numbers.

    For the most part, my tenants have been amazing. And they're good people who just need a safe, clean, long-term place to live in without a lot of drama.

    – Chad Carson

    – Finding and Screening Good Tenants

    • The foundation of attracting good tenants is maintaining a quality property. Well-kept homes attract considerate renters. Advertise on Zillow with clear requirements (credit score minimums) stated upfront. Screen rigorously for income, credit, and rental payment history—don't let personal feelings override demonstrated payment ability.

    You have to separate the person from their ability to pay. And if the person has not demonstrated they can pay, then you're asking for trouble.

    – Chad Carson

    Books Mentioned

    • The Small and Mighty Real Estate Investor by Chad Carson

    Resources

    • Coach Carson YouTube Channelvideo
    • Real Estate Investing with Coach Carson Podcast
    • Zillow Rental Listingstool

    Topics

    Real Estate InvestingHouse HackingRental PropertiesLandlord TipsFinancial IndependenceShort-Term RentalsLong-Term RentalsTenant ScreeningProperty ManagementPassive Income

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