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    Money Talk With Tiff
    Episode•September 24, 2020•29 min

    Setting Kids Up For Financial Success with Nakia Swinton | Ep. 49

    In this episode, Tiffany sits down with Gen-Z'er Nakia Swinton as she discusses how she was raised and the great financial example her dad was.  There were a lot of gems dropped!  Even Tiffany learned something new! About Our Guest Nakia Swinton is one of the co-hosts of The So-Called Oreos podcast, a podcast discussing all the awkwardness, hardships and hilarity of society labeling you as an "oreo." She has a career in the media industry where she started professionally on the Communications team at VICE Media before her current role of being a Talent Assistant for WarnerMedia's linear channels. Follow Her on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kia.swins Follow Her on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/kia_swinton Connect with Tiffany on Social Media Facebook: Money Talk With Tiff Twitter: @moneytalkwitht Instagram: @moneytalkwitht LinkedIn: Tiffany Grant YouTube: Money Talk With Tiff Channel Pinterest: Money Talk With Tiff This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy OP3 - https://op3.dev/privacy

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    Key Takeaways

    • 1

      Start financial education early with real tools like debit cards

      Nakia received a PNC student debit card at age 13 with $100 seed money and a tracking book

      Her father avoided micromanaging, allowing her to learn through real transactions like ATM use and writing checks

      Tiffany plans to implement the same strategy with her 11-year-old to prevent the 'money grows on trees' mindset

    • 2

      Pay off high-interest student loans aggressively—even during college

      Nakia began paying loans in her sophomore year, targeting those with ~6% interest rates first

      She increased monthly payments from $200 to $300 and directed all refunds/bonuses toward debt

      She refinanced through Earnest for a lower rate and $200 referral bonus

    • 3

      Parents should teach kids financial responsibility instead of enabling dependency

      Nakia's parents made her responsible for her own loans and finances rather than paying for her

      Tiffany shared how paying her own car payment at 16 and having a child at 18 forced early financial discipline

      Spoiled adult children who still have parents paying rent appear 'tacky' and lack relatable life skills

    • 4

      Credit cards can be used responsibly when taught proper habits

      Nakia's father instilled the rule: 'If you can't pay for it, don't put it on the credit card'

      She pays balances in full monthly and leverages points/rewards systems

      She avoided the credit card debt trap many peers fell into due to lack of parental guidance

    Intro

    • Tiffany interviews Nakia Swinton about how early financial lessons from her father shaped her approach to debit cards, credit cards, and student loans.
    • Nakia Swinton is a media professional and co-host of The So-Called Oreos podcast. She previously worked on the Communications team at VICE Media and currently serves as a Talent Assistant at WarnerMedia.
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    – Early Financial Foundation: The Debit Card at 13

    • Nakia's father opened PNC student debit accounts for her and her sister at age 13, seeding each with $100. They received a physical ledger book to manually track every transaction, learning ATM use and check writing through real-world practice.

    He never really micromanaged us, which was good.

    – Nakia Swinton
    • Tiffany sees immediate application for her own 11-year-old, planning to open a checking account alongside existing savings accounts to teach spending discipline before high school.

    – College-Era Credit Card Responsibility

    • Nakia obtained her first credit card toward the end of college. Her father emphasized paying the balance in full monthly and avoiding debt. She learned to maximize points and rewards while maintaining zero balances.

    Don't put money on the credit card if you cannot pay off the balance each month.

    – Nakia Swinton
    • Tiffany highlights this as proof that Gen Z can handle credit responsibly when given proper guidance, contrasting it with peers who accumulated debt young.

    – Student Loans: Early Payoff Strategy

    • Nakia started chipping away at federal loans during college by targeting high-interest balances (~6%) after each semester. Post-graduation, she increased payments and directed all windfalls (tax refunds, bonuses) to principal.

    Every time I get extra money, it goes to the loans.

    – Nakia Swinton
    • She later refinanced through Earnest, lowering rates and earning referral bonuses. She now has roughly $10K remaining from an original ~$25-30K balance.

    – The Cost of Ignoring Student Loans

    • Tiffany warns that ignoring student loans can lead to wage garnishment, tax refund seizure, and credit damage. Nakia shares a story of a friend whose wages were garnished after default.

    They literally just started taking it from his paycheck. And I didn't know they could do that.

    – Nakia Swinton
    • Both emphasize staying in contact with servicers and prioritizing loans to avoid default consequences.

    – Privilege vs. Responsibility: Lessons from Different Upbringings

    • Tiffany recounts driving privileged college students whose parents funded lavish lifestyles, contrasting this with her own experience of financial responsibility thrust upon her at a young age.

    You don't want to be 25 plus and like, 'Hey mom, can you pay my rent?' That's not a good look.

    – Nakia Swinton
    • The discussion underscores that shielding children from financial responsibility can handicap them long-term.

    Resources

    • The So-Called Oreos Podcast
    • Earnest Loan Refinancingtool

    Topics

    Financial EducationStudent LoansCredit CardsDebit CardsParenting & MoneyDebt PayoffGen Z FinancePodcast Notes

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