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    Money Talk With Tiff
    Episode•December 8, 2022•18 min

    Sales 101 with Joseph Rockey | Ep. 177

    This week, Joseph Rockey joins Tiffany on the podcast to talk through all things sales! Joe discusses the importance of sales for an entrepreneur and everything you need to know about the sales cycle. About Our Guest Joe Rockey Jr created a successful real estate career beginning in the immediate aftermath of recession of 2009. Over the years, Joe's seen people live and work from a wide array of vantage points. Currently, Joe operates multiple rental, flip, rent to own, and networking companies on a professional level. In the unpaid arenas of life, Joe runs the podcast Father and Joe - where he attempts to return individuals to a place of faith in their lives.   Connect with Joseph Rockey Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/father-and-joe/id1201053379 Connect with Tiffany on Social Media Facebook: Money Talk With Tiff Twitter: @moneytalkwitht Instagram: @moneytalkwitht LinkedIn: Tiffany Grant  This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy OP3 - https://op3.dev/privacy

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    Key Takeaways

    • 1

      Sales is the lifeblood of any entrepreneurial venture

      Without consistent revenue coming in, businesses fail regardless of product quality

      Sales provides the reward that sustains entrepreneurs through sleepless nights and stress

      The three core components of sales are: getting people in the door, converting them to customers, and delivering quality products/services

    • 2

      No single person excels at all three sales cycle components

      Each entrepreneur has different strengths across the three areas: filling the pipeline, closing sales, and delivering the product

      Attempting to do everything leads to excelling in one area while struggling in others

      Hire specialists for pipeline generation and closing, especially on commission-based structures

    • 3

      Hire salespeople on 100% commission with proper incentive structures

      Work backwards from desired earnings: determine how many opportunities they'll receive and their realistic close rate

      Example: If someone should earn $50K and closes 65% of 100 opportunities, pay $1,000 per close

      The math works because paying a top salesperson more than yourself initially leads to dramatically higher net profits as you scale

    • 4

      Price based on market value, not your costs

      Look at what competitors charge and position yourself relative to their quality

      Being the best allows you to charge premium prices - people pay for perceived value

      If it costs 30 cents to make but the market pays $9, charge $9 - that's how business works

    • 5

      Build your sales pipeline before building your product

      Most entrepreneurs start with the product/back-end but fail without front-end sales capability

      The business that sells the most wins, not necessarily the one with the best product

      Sales strategy should be planned before signing leases or making major investments

    Intro

    • Tiffany hosts Joseph Rockey to discuss the critical role of sales in entrepreneurship, covering the complete sales cycle from pipeline generation to closing deals.
    • Joe Rockey Jr. built a successful real estate career starting in 2009 post-recession. He operates multiple rental, flip, and rent-to-own companies, and hosts the Father and Joe podcast focused on faith and relationships.
    Father and Joe Podcast

    – Why Sales Matters for Entrepreneurs

    • Joe explains that sales is the reward at the end of the entrepreneurial tunnel. Without money coming in, businesses fail regardless of how hard you work.

    It's hard enough being an entrepreneur... At the end of the day, if there's not enough money coming in the door, you don't have anything.

    – Joseph Rockey

    – The Three Components of the Sales Cycle

    • Joe breaks down sales into three essential parts: getting people into your bakery (pipeline), having them give you money for donuts (closing), and giving them good donuts (delivery).

    There is not a person on the planet who is capable of doing all three of those things, period, at least at an elite level.

    – Joseph Rockey

    – How to Structure Sales Compensation

    • Work backwards from desired earnings. Determine realistic close rates and calculate commission accordingly. The key is making the opportunity attractive enough that top performers will join regardless of other factors.

    You will make more money by paying someone a lot of money... In the beginning, you might be paying someone more than yourself. But in the long run, that will change dramatically.

    – Joseph Rockey

    – Finding and Hiring Great Salespeople

    • Look for mental toughness, resiliency, self-starting ability, and willingness to work on commission. Less than 10% of the population will work on 100% commission.
    • Ability to handle rejection without imploding
    • Self-governing and self-starting mindset
    • Integrity and willingness to listen
    • Personable nature to relate with others

    – Pricing Strategy and Market Positioning

    • Price based on market rates, not your internal costs. Be the best at what you do, then charge accordingly. The market determines value, not your production costs.

    Price, in my opinion, should never be viewed upon yourself. It's what is the market saying it should be.

    – Joseph Rockey

    – When to Hire Sales Help

    • Build sales capability before building the product. The business that sells the most wins, not the one with the best product. Plan your sales funnel before signing leases or making investments.

    Most people start a business because they have the back end. They have the product in mind. But unless you have the front end, it doesn't matter.

    – Joseph Rockey

    Topics

    Sales StrategyEntrepreneurshipHiring SalespeopleCommission StructuresPricing StrategyBusiness GrowthSales PipelineReal EstateStartup AdviceCompensation Planning

    Sales 101 with Joseph Rockey | Ep. 177

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