Money Talk With Tiff
EpisodeJuly 23, 202037 min

Master Your Relationship with Money with YeSeul Kim | Ep. 45

Money is emotional!  Tiffany has talked about this time and time again on the blog and podcast but this time she brings on YeSeul Kim to give a different perspective.  They drop so many gems on how they got past their financial trauma and how they handle money in their marriages.  How is your relationship with money? About Our Guest YeSeul is a business executive turned storyteller who loves hunting for the unexpected. When she is not recording podcasts, YeSeul is working on her book Business Love: Your MBA to Relationships and photo journalism project Humans of Treviso. Follow her on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/serendpitystories.podcast Follow her on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/serendipitystoriespodcast Links Humans of Treviso Project: https://www.instagram.com/genteditreviso/ Connect with Tiffany on Social Media Facebook: Money Talk With Tiff Twitter: @moneytalkwitht Instagram: @moneytalkwitht LinkedIn: Tiffany Grant YouTube: Money Talk With Tiff Channel Pinterest: Money Talk With Tiff This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy OP3 - https://op3.dev/privacy

Key Takeaways

  • 1

    Money is emotional and tied to past experiences

    YeSeul's financial trauma from losing everything as a child shaped her adult relationship with money

    She became obsessed with making money but never felt secure despite earning more

    Her fears about spending were based on past trauma, not current financial reality

  • 2

    Both partners need to be involved in budgeting and financial decisions

    YeSeul and her husband had different money styles - she was emotional, he was rational

    Without shared visibility into finances, conflicts arose based on feelings rather than facts

    They developed a 'wealth tracker' system that gives both partners what they need

  • 3

    Save with purpose, not just to accumulate

    YeSeul shifted from 'save money, spending is bad' to asking 'why am I saving?'

    They created specific savings goals with dedicated pots (pets, vacations)

    This clarity allowed them to feel good about both saving and occasional splurges

  • 4

    Adversity can build valuable skills and confidence

    Working at age 12 teaching English gave YeSeul confidence she could 'figure anything out'

    This self-assurance helped her navigate seven different career industries

    The trauma carried baggage, but the confidence gained was 'priceless'

  • 5

    Outsource what neither partner enjoys doing with money

    If neither person likes budgeting or investing, consider hiring help

    Spending money on financial management can be an investment in the relationship

    Don't force each other to do tasks you both dislike

Intro

  • Tiffany Grant explores how money is deeply emotional and tied to our past experiences, featuring a guest whose story differs from her own but illustrates the same powerful truth.
  • YeSeul Kim is a business executive turned storyteller from Korea via Guam, now living in Italy. She's working on her book 'Business Love: Your MBA to Relationships' and the 'Humans of Treviso' photojournalism project.

Guest Introduction & Background

  • Tiffany introduces YeSeul Kim, a business executive turned storyteller living in Italy, working on her book 'Business Love' and the 'Humans of Treviso' project.

YeSeul's Financial Journey: From Comfort to Crisis

  • YeSeul describes growing up in Guam with entrepreneurial parents who owned a car rental company and driving school. Their success ended abruptly due to a plane crash and the Asian financial crisis.

We lost everything... we weren't sure where I would go to school in two weeks.

YeSeul Kim
  • At age 12, she began teaching English to support her family, managing 15 students from ages 3-18 while barely speaking Korean herself.

The Emotional Weight of Money

  • Tiffany highlights the entrepreneurial genius of YeSeul's parents and acknowledges the trauma of a 12-year-old bearing such responsibility.

Money no longer became a rational thing... I also became a little bit obsessed with making money.

YeSeul Kim
  • YeSeul realized her sense of security never came despite earning more - she was using money to solve insecurities rooted in 20-year-old trauma.

The Confidence Built from Adversity

  • YeSeul reframes her experience: the adversity gave her confidence that she can 'start anything and figure things out as I go,' leading to seven different industry careers.

The self-confidence and the pride and the assurance that no matter what, I can figure things out - those are equally priceless.

YeSeul Kim

Money Styles in Marriage: Emotional vs. Rational

  • YeSeul describes her 'Gollum-like' approach to money - obsessively tracking what came in but avoiding tracking spending due to fear.

My husband is very rational. He's an engineer... I'd say 'you're spending too much' and he'd say 'that's your feeling, but what's it based on?'

YeSeul Kim
  • Analysis revealed YeSeul actually spent more than her husband in most months - her fears weren't based on current reality.

The System: Tactical Tools + Mindset Shift

  • They adopted a 'why' framework from business: asking what they're saving for, not just saving for its own sake.
  • They use Ally Bank to create specific savings goals with separate 'pots' - $5,000/year for a dog, $10,000 for three vacations - making progress visible and emotionally satisfying.

It wasn't just a nebulous, infinite goal of saving.

YeSeul Kim

The Wealth Tracker System

  • YeSeul's husband maintains an Excel 'wealth tracker' that automatically tabulates their assets. He highlights key numbers in green for her to review, giving her the visibility she needs without constant check-ins.

I can access it anytime I want... that calms me down. He can update it whenever he wants... we're still able to communicate and give each other both what we need.

YeSeul Kim

The Relationship Triangle Framework

  • YeSeul shares her relationship framework: (1) Do you love each other? (2) Do you fulfill each other's needs - financial, spiritual, physical? (3) The tool or system that works for your specific dynamic.
  • If neither partner enjoys financial tasks, outsource them - consider it an investment in the relationship.

Humans of Treviso Project

  • YeSeul describes her photojournalism project documenting stories of people in the conservative Italian town of Treviso, inspired by Humans of New York. The project helped her build community as an outsider.
  • Stories are published 2-3 times weekly on Instagram and Facebook under 'Gente di Treviso.'

Books Mentioned

  • Business Love: Your MBA to Relationships by YeSeul Kim

Resources

Topics

money and emotionsfinancial traumacouples and moneybudgeting systemssaving with purposemarriage and financesovercoming money fearsstorytellingcommunity buildingfinancial psychology
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