Money Talk With Tiff
EpisodeMay 19, 202225 min

Debt-free College Planning with Shellee Howard | Ep. 104

In this episode, Shellee Howard shares her knowledge on how to start planning for college with your children, and how forward thinking early on can help them be debt-free in college. About Our Guest Shellee is a Certified Independent College Strategist and Counselor. She helps Middle and High School students (and their parents) by preparing them for the college admissions process, helping them create a Stand Out Strategy, get into their best fit college without going into debt, and even how to succeed once admitted. Connect with Shellee Howard Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/gocollegeready Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/collegereadyplan Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/CollegeReadyDebtFree Connect with Tiffany on Social Media Facebook: Money Talk With Tiff Twitter: @moneytalkwitht Instagram: @moneytalkwitht LinkedIn: Tiffany Grant This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy OP3 - https://op3.dev/privacy

Key Takeaways

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    Start college planning as early as eighth grade to maximize financial aid opportunities

    FAFSA considers income from sophomore and junior years, so early planning allows families to optimize their financial position

    Waiting until junior year is the number one way to end up in debt

    Early planning gives students time to build leadership, community service, and extracurricular profiles that attract scholarships

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    Choose the right college fit across academic, social, and financial dimensions

    Visit both large public and small private schools to understand preferences

    Private schools often provide better financial aid packages than expected, sometimes making them cheaper than public options

    Students rarely understand the long-term impact of $250,000 in student debt; frame it as "how long do you want to work for free?"

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    Community service is the most effective path to major scholarships

    Community service helps students discover their interests and demonstrates values to scholarship committees

    One student earned a full ride to Vanderbilt through an international COVID service project

    Shellee's students earned $10.7 million in scholarships in 2021 alone

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    Avoid low-value scholarship applications and focus on quality opportunities

    Skip scholarships under $1,000 - a minimum wage job is more time-efficient

    Never apply to scholarships without an essay requirement (they're harvesting your data)

    Use vetted scholarship sources rather than random Google searches

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    Explore career interests through low-commitment experiences before committing

    Take free online courses (like Python on Coursera) to test interests

    Understand that different schools teach the same major differently (theory vs. practical focus)

    Summer before high school is the most underutilized time for building experiences

Intro

  • Tiffany Grant interviews Shellee Howard about strategic college planning to help families avoid student debt through early preparation and smart decision-making.
  • Shellee Howard is a Certified Independent College Strategist and Counselor who helps middle and high school students and their parents navigate the college admissions process, create standout strategies, and secure debt-free college education.

The Best Strategy for Debt-Free College

  • Shellee emphasizes that the best strategy is to plan early with a set plan rather than waiting until junior year.

Most people go with the approach of, oh, we'll figure it out when they're a junior or we'll let them apply and see where they get in. And that's the number one way to get into debt.

Shellee Howard
  • FAFSA looks at sophomore and junior year income, so waiting prevents families from optimizing their financial aid eligibility.

What to Do in Eighth Grade

  • Before eighth grade, parents should plant seeds by sharing college memories and taking kids on tours starting in fifth or sixth grade.
  • In eighth grade, focus on helping children identify their core values, gifts, and talents rather than picking specific colleges.

The first classes they take their freshman year are critical. If they get put on a path of the basic no challenge path, the chances of them going to a mid-tier or top-tier school is going to be very difficult.

Shellee Howard
  • Advocating for appropriate class placement (like advancing in foreign language) can significantly impact academic trajectory.

Exploring Career Interests Early

  • Tiffany shares how her seventh-grade son is taking engineering classes and exploring different engineering disciplines.

If they think they wanted to go into something, take an online summer class. It doesn't take anything other than their time.

Shellee Howard
  • Students often have misconceptions about careers (wanting to code without trying it) or misunderstand what different schools emphasize (theory vs. practical engineering).

Finding the Right College Fit

  • Visit both large public and small private schools, and schools offering different levels of focus in your major to understand preferences.

Do I want to be the big fish in the small sea or do I want to be the small fish in the big sea?

Shellee Howard
  • Private schools often have deeper pockets and can provide better financial aid than expected, sometimes making them less expensive than public options.

A 17-year-old very rarely understands how much $250,000 in student loan debt is going to be.

Shellee Howard

Finding and Winning Scholarships

  • Start looking for scholarships immediately - there are opportunities available even for middle school students.

If there's no essay attached, do not apply. Because it's a bait and a switch.

Shellee Howard
  • Skip scholarships under $1,000 - earning minimum wage is more time-efficient. Focus on vetted opportunities and community service projects.

The best way to get scholarships is through community service.

Shellee Howard

Shellee's College Ready Program

  • The program starts when students finish eighth grade because colleges begin evaluating students from that point forward.
  • Students stay in the program through college admission, receiving ongoing guidance via email, calls, texts, or Zoom.
  • Shellee offers a free discovery call and a free copy of her book "How to Send Your Student to College Without Losing Your Mind or Your Money" at book.collegereadyplan.com.

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Topics

college planningstudent debtscholarshipsFAFSAcollege admissionsfinancial aidcommunity servicecareer explorationparentingeducation strategy
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